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Sitting at my desk at work, the first week of 2010, nothing to do. So once again my natural instinct is to investigate. And today I hit the jackpot.
Talking to Aim about the Taliban, Al Qaeda, America, one cannot help but feel there are certain gaps in content, not just on what we know (for one cannot know everything), but whole areas where critical thought has not cast it's eye. I wanted to know just a little more clearly how the Taliban came to power, their relationship with Al Qaeda, both groups' individual goals, and the US's (govt and business) involvement with them historically. Simple questions but it's the most obvious questions that take you into the deep (The deep State also the name of this mysterious governing force in Turkey, which I think we can also say exists in the US). This is so mindboggling it is going to require you to do your own research. It centers around one Sibel Edmonds, A translator of Turkish, Tajik etc for the FBI who was fired after whistle blowing one heady nearly all-encompassing operation. The ACLU has called her "the most gagged person in the history of the United States." Recently though she has been allowed to testify under oath, and give a clearer picture of the evidence she knew, leading to a break to end all breaks. Read this interview or this summary, both in the American Conservative (American Conservative!!!) There is also a documentary made 2 French (ofcourse) directors in 2005 called Kill The Messenger detailing her struggle, which just had its premier screening in the Us just 6 months ago.
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/jan/28/00012/
"A Department of Justice inspector general’s report called Edmonds’s allegations “credible,” “serious,” and “warrant[ing] a thorough and careful review by the FBI.” Ranking Senate Judiciary Committee members Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) have backed her publicly. “60 Minutes” launched an investigation of her claims and found them believable. No one has ever disproved any of Edmonds’s revelations, which she says can be verified by FBI investigative files."
The story is so big though that it's hard to really grasp a full picture of this conspiracy. And please lets not dismiss this as "conspiracy theory", as I feel I am smart enough to cover my bases and track what is controversial ground, and plus the blow off of conspiracy is an authoritarian tool ("Idiots, how can you believe there were NO planes on 9/11") that dismisses investigation. Just as there is a religious strain through politics that goes unmentioned, there is the criminal-corruption- narco-elitist- lobbyist-weapons trafficking one (many intertwined). And why shouldn't there be? There is corruption everywhere else in the world right, why would it not be possible for the senior ranking state department official to sell state secrets when we know the line is allowed to be blurred anyways in the US with the rotating door of lobby firms and elected government officials. We know that most of these people are already corporate-lobby clients, it is only the next step to become active where the money is flowing. Edmonds was on an investigation of one Marc Grossman, suspected of doing business with the turks, etc.
Grossman became a person of interest early on in the investigative file while he was the U.S. ambassador to Turkey [1994-97], when he became personally involved with operatives both from the Turkish government and from suspected criminal groups. He also had suspicious contact with a number of official and non-official Israelis. Grossman was removed from Turkey short of tour during a scandal referred to as “Susurluk” by the media. It involved a number of high-level criminals as well as senior army and intelligence officers with whom he had been in contact.
What happened at Sursurluk? (http://kurdistan.org/Washington/couturier3.html) Turkey's scandal in 96 that made Iran Contra look like the fucking Gong Show
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/jan/28/00012/
"A Department of Justice inspector general’s report called Edmonds’s allegations “credible,” “serious,” and “warrant[ing] a thorough and careful review by the FBI.” Ranking Senate Judiciary Committee members Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) have backed her publicly. “60 Minutes” launched an investigation of her claims and found them believable. No one has ever disproved any of Edmonds’s revelations, which she says can be verified by FBI investigative files."
The story is so big though that it's hard to really grasp a full picture of this conspiracy. And please lets not dismiss this as "conspiracy theory", as I feel I am smart enough to cover my bases and track what is controversial ground, and plus the blow off of conspiracy is an authoritarian tool ("Idiots, how can you believe there were NO planes on 9/11") that dismisses investigation. Just as there is a religious strain through politics that goes unmentioned, there is the criminal-corruption- narco-elitist- lobbyist-weapons trafficking one (many intertwined). And why shouldn't there be? There is corruption everywhere else in the world right, why would it not be possible for the senior ranking state department official to sell state secrets when we know the line is allowed to be blurred anyways in the US with the rotating door of lobby firms and elected government officials. We know that most of these people are already corporate-lobby clients, it is only the next step to become active where the money is flowing. Edmonds was on an investigation of one Marc Grossman, suspected of doing business with the turks, etc.
Grossman became a person of interest early on in the investigative file while he was the U.S. ambassador to Turkey [1994-97], when he became personally involved with operatives both from the Turkish government and from suspected criminal groups. He also had suspicious contact with a number of official and non-official Israelis. Grossman was removed from Turkey short of tour during a scandal referred to as “Susurluk” by the media. It involved a number of high-level criminals as well as senior army and intelligence officers with whom he had been in contact.
What happened at Sursurluk? (http://kurdistan.org/Washington/couturier3.html) Turkey's scandal in 96 that made Iran Contra look like the fucking Gong Show
"What began as a routine police investigation into the
accident showed that the Mercedes' passengers
included an ultranationalist fugitive, a top police
official, a member of parliament and the fugitive's
girlfriend, a former beauty contest winner.
The legislator was the only survivor.
The fugitive killed in the accident, Abdullah Catli,
has been wanted by the international law enforcement
agency Interpol since he escaped in 1990 from a Swiss
prison, where he was serving a sentence for heroin
trafficking. Catli was suspected of involvement in a
number of killings in Turkey,
including those of seven leftist students, and of
having helped Mehmet Ali Agca escape from prison in
Istanbul in 1979. Two years later, Agca shot Pope
John Paul II in an assassination attempt in Rome."
"Grossman and Dickerson had to leave the country because a big investigation had started in Turkey. Special prosecutors were appointed, and the case was headlined in England, Germany, Italy, and in some of the Balkan countries because the criminal groups were found to be active in all those places. A leading figure in the scandal, Mehmet Eymür, led a major paramilitary group for the Turkish intelligence service. To keep him from testifying, Eymür was sent by the Turkish government to the United States, where he worked for eight months as head of intelligence at the Turkish Embassy in Washington. He later became a U.S. citizen and now lives in McLean, Virginia. The central figure in this scandal was Abdullah Catli. In 1989, while “most wanted” by Interpol, he came to the U.S., was granted residency, and settled in Chicago, where he continued to conduct his operations until 1996."
This same shadow government has its tendrils deep into Washington, through the ATC.
"The ATC, founded in 1994 and modeled on the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, was intended to promote Turkish interests in Congress and in other public forums. Edmonds refers to ATC and AIPAC as “sister organizations.” The group’s founders include a number of prominent Americans involved in the Israel-Turkey relationship, notably Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, and former congressman Stephen Solarz. Perle and Feith had earlier been registered lobbyists for Turkey through Feith’s company, International Advisors Inc. The FBI was interested in ATC because it suspected that the group derived at least some of its income from drug trafficking, Turkey being the source of 90 percent of the heroin that reaches Europe, and because of reports that it had given congressmen illegal contributions or bribes. Moreover, as Edmonds told the Times, the Turks have “often acted as a conduit for the Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistan’s spy agency, because they were less likely to attract attention.”
Many of these same people's names came up during Edmond's time listening to wiretaps, of course she being Turkish she would immediately realize the strangeness of American officials having close relationships with known politicians in league with the narco-mafia etc. Most of the heroin is grown in Afghanistan. Heroin is the main source of funding for Al-Qaeda. money/treachery.
This same shadow government has its tendrils deep into Washington, through the ATC.
"The ATC, founded in 1994 and modeled on the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, was intended to promote Turkish interests in Congress and in other public forums. Edmonds refers to ATC and AIPAC as “sister organizations.” The group’s founders include a number of prominent Americans involved in the Israel-Turkey relationship, notably Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, and former congressman Stephen Solarz. Perle and Feith had earlier been registered lobbyists for Turkey through Feith’s company, International Advisors Inc. The FBI was interested in ATC because it suspected that the group derived at least some of its income from drug trafficking, Turkey being the source of 90 percent of the heroin that reaches Europe, and because of reports that it had given congressmen illegal contributions or bribes. Moreover, as Edmonds told the Times, the Turks have “often acted as a conduit for the Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistan’s spy agency, because they were less likely to attract attention.”
Many of these same people's names came up during Edmond's time listening to wiretaps, of course she being Turkish she would immediately realize the strangeness of American officials having close relationships with known politicians in league with the narco-mafia etc. Most of the heroin is grown in Afghanistan. Heroin is the main source of funding for Al-Qaeda. money/treachery.
"In some cases where the FBI stumbles upon evidence of high-level officials being involved in drug-smuggling, they're even prevented from sharing it with the DEA [Drug Enforcement Agency]. The Department of State just comes in and says, "Leave it.""
The insane thing is that their seems to be no limit to what they can't stick their fingers too, some of these people have just been in government so long and have been shady for so long its just not even a big deal anymore. They make lists of people in important positions, find out things about them (like that one congresswoman who is bisexual) and then bribe them, pretty much with impunity. (Others are gagged and marginalized readily) In many cases their interests are aligned. There was the other story of a Turkish professor at MIT, part of this deep state, who has the power to suggest PHD students to work in impt nuclear facilities, who in turn sell those secrets to the Turks, who proceed to sell them for more to Pakistanis or Saudis, the highest bidder.
"Lantos was at the time probably the most outspoken supporter of Israel in Congress. AIPAC would take out the information from Lantos that was relevant to Israel, and they would give the rest of it to their Turkish associates. The Turks would go through the leftovers, take what they wanted, and then try to sell the rest. If there were something relevant to Pakistan, they would contact the ISI officer at the embassy and say, “We’ve got this and this, let’s sit down and talk.” And then they would sell it to the Pakistanis."
"In the summer of 2000, the FBI recorded a meeting between a Turkish official and two Saudi businessmen in Detroit in which nuclear information stolen from an Air Force base in Alabama was offered: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000,” the wiretap allegedly recorded. “The network appeared to be obtaining information from every nuclear agency in the United States,” Edmonds told the Times."
"She claims to have also learned that corrupt officials in the Turkish and Israeli Ministries of Defense falsified end-user certificates on weapons purchased in the United States to enable sales to third countries not allowed access to the technology. Principal recipients include the five “Stans” in central Asia—Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Kazakhstan."
"One translator, Melek Can Dickerson, who had worked for three Turkish front organizations under investigation—she failed to reveal this when applying for employment—allegedly stamped many documents of interest “not pertinent,” removed classified documents from FBI premises, and forged signatures on classified documents relating to 9/11 detainees. An Urdu translator was the daughter of a Pakistani Embassy employee who worked for Gen. Mahmoud Ahmad, the head of the Pakistani intelligence service who is accused of authorizing a $100,000 wire transfer to Mohammed Atta’s Dubai bank account immediately before 9/11. The Justice Department IG report confirmed Edmonds’s charge that translators’ section managers issued a go-slow order shortly after the terrorist attacks to create an artificial backlog that would justify an increase in budget and manpower. Those managers are reportedly still in place. Some have been promoted."
Incredible. Still won't believe it? BELIEVE IT YO. We don't have many people who can translate. Who are the people who would do it? The people are hanging out in Washington being shady, llike Melek who was an intern at ATC, prepped and ready to get an important spot handling important documents.
"There have been frequent reports of FBI field agents being frustrated by the premature closure of cases dealing with foreign spying, particularly when those cases involve Israel, and the State Department has frequently intervened to shut down investigations based on “sensitive foreign diplomatic relations.”
"Curiously, the states-secrets gag order binding Edmonds, while put in place by DOJ in 2002, was not requested by the FBI but by the State Department and Pentagon—which employed individuals she identified as being involved in criminal activities. If her allegations are frivolous, that order would scarcely seem necessary. It would have been much simpler for the government to marginalize her by demonstrating that she was poorly informed or speculating about matters outside her competency. Under the Bush administration, the security gag order has been invoked to cover up incompetence or illegality, not to protect national security. It has recently been used to conceal the illegal wiretaps of the warrantless surveillance program, the allegations of torture and the CIA’s rendition program, and to shield the telecom industry for its collaboration in illegal eavesdropping.
It's a known fact that 90% or so of all the aid that is meant to go to Afghanistan never reaches the ground there, it vanishes into the hands of the contractors. This conspiracy is just another aspect of the full dysfunction of the American state at the highest levels, which trickles down (ha!). We just recently have updated our air security and put 675 million people, all the residents of 14 countries, on a terrorist list. We want to think the problem is outside of us, but it has infected our bureaucracy beyond our ability to even comprehend. These quotes are just a taste, it will be 20 years in the future before we figure out the whole truth.I leave you with one last quote and hope you decide to read the above articles for yourself and do some of your own research.
Sibel Edmonds makes a number of accusations about specific criminal behavior that appear to be extraordinary but are credible enough to warrant official investigation. Her allegations are documentable: an existing FBI file should determine whether they are accurate. It’s true that she probably knows only part of the story, but if that part is correct, Congress and the Justice Department should have no higher priority. Nothing deserves more attention than the possibility of ongoing national-security failures and the proliferation of nuclear weapons with the connivance of corrupt senior government officials.
One more good site with links:
http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/
30,000 pages of evidence the US govt demanded the swiss govt to destroy regarding the prosecution of the Tinner family, key suppliers in A.Q. Khan's nuclear proliferation network. and other updates
http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.com/
The true recent history of 9/11 (beginning in the early 90's)
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